Unite or Unison?

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Nat89
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Unite or Unison?

Post by Nat89 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:22 pm

Hi all,

I`m a current first year and some recent issues with our trust have made me feel I probably should join a union, just in case....!

I`m a bit confused as to the differences between Unite and Unison? Which one are most people part of? Also the monthly fees do seem quite high to me, do people feel they get their worth?

Thanks!

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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by astra » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:21 pm

Unison is generally better for admin workers in the NHS and Unite is better for psychologists. There is a Psychologists section within Unite and in the past they were instrumental along with the BPS in negotiating our position on Agenda for Change.
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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by Claire1112 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:23 pm

Hi Everyone,

Im hoping to re-start this convo if possible! I am a newly qualified clinical psychologist and we are facing a lot of significant changes at work and to our role. There has been some whispers that Psychology will only provide consultation and groups (no mention of individual therapy) and with other changes afoot, I directed my attention to looking at a union to join. I think its my effort to not feel helpless and whilst i want to work with the organisation to think about solutions to issues that arise; i'm also wary that some changes made may not be the best for my career and the clients I work with.

I wonder if this is a personal choice, but does anyone have any experience of either Unite or Unison and if so, would they mind sharing them?!

Thanks in advance!

Claire :)

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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by BenJMan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:27 pm

I've never had personal cause to use either, but from an anecdotal (from other people) point of view, I haven't heard good things about Unison, but I have about Unite. That paired with their more specialist understanding of psychologists makes me stay with them over others.
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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by Claire1112 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:46 pm

Thanks BenJMan.

I also have some anecdotal experience and the opposite was reported!? that the Unite rep was barely contactable and they offered no support. This was in two different areas. At the same time this could just be some poor reps and i know that's not generalisable. I wish i didn't have need for them :cry:

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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by alexh » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:21 pm

Does anyone know if either unite or unison are active, or preparing for action in respect of the funding arrangements for clinical psychology training in the future?

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Post by BenJMan » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:24 am

Claire1112 wrote:Thanks BenJMan.

I also have some anecdotal experience and the opposite was reported!? that the Unite rep was barely contactable and they offered no support. This was in two different areas. At the same time this could just be some poor reps and i know that's not generalisable. I wish i didn't have need for them :cry:
I think that's the problem.. unfortunately these things tend to hang in the majority on how good the union rep for the area is, which is a shame as people get wildly different services.
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Re: Unite or Unison?

Post by Randall » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:44 pm

The next BPS President is actually one of the Unite reps - so hopefully she will continue the more active approach that the current and former President have...In particular, supporting members in responding to the threats to future funding.

I used to be with Unison, and felt quite distanced and that it didn't hold much relevance. I feel better supported by Unite simply because they have their own psych section - but I think their communication/publicity needs a lot of work...As I have no idea of whether they are actively doing anything or not...

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