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How many years after you graduated from your psychology degree did you get a place on training?

Zero (straight from undergrad)
6
1%
1 year
20
4%
2 years
70
12%
3 years
119
21%
4 years
110
19%
5 years
75
13%
6 years
60
11%
7 years
42
7%
8+ years
63
11%
 
Total votes: 565

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the co

Post by BlueCat » Mon May 09, 2016 11:05 pm

I love how this is normally distributed :)
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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the co

Post by BenJMan » Thu May 12, 2016 1:47 pm

BlueCat wrote:I love how this is normally distributed :)
Apart from those pesky 8+ outliers.. I think we should investigate! :D
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Post by eu247 » Fri May 13, 2016 5:01 pm

I graduated from my psychology degree fourteen years ago and trained into a different health profession which i graduated from 11 years ago.....

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Post by purpledot » Sun May 22, 2016 7:47 pm

I graduated 8 years ago, but spent the first couple of years working in an un-related field whilst volunteering, and then another couple of years working in a relevant field but considering Social Work. Then 3 1/2 years ago I was lucky enough to get a position working with a CP and realised I was much more interested in and suited to psychology than I was to Social Work.

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Post by jsv1990 » Tue May 24, 2016 10:23 pm

I graduated four years ago (but in that time I did also spend a year doing a Masters course while working full time so I guess some might see that as five since I've effectively done five years worth of "stuff" in four years)

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the co

Post by Alexander » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:48 am

BenJMan wrote:
BlueCat wrote:I love how this is normally distributed :)
Apart from those pesky 8+ outliers.. I think we should investigate! :D
I'm an outlier. I think for many it's because they are on a different trajectory to training. Me though, it just took me bloody ages - I started as soon as I graduated! :?

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Post by BrokenWings » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:33 am

I'm a pesky outlier!

I graduated my undergrad in 2007.
I did an MSc in Health Psych from 2009-2011 (part time).

I got my first relevant job (HCA in a neuro department) in 2012. I got my first 'proper job' (i.e. one that I couldn't actually do without having a psych degree) in 2014.

So it looks like a long time since I graduated, but for at least 3 years it seems like I wasn't doing anything relevant (I was doing bits & pieces of voluntary work). Since I got that first relevant job, it's not been that long. Since I got my first 'proper job' it's been less than 2 years.

I just wish someone (e.g. careers department at my undergrad uni) had said to me as an undergrad that I would have been better off doing an HCA type job rather than working in retail part time while studying.
It is also very hard to change from one type of work to another (e.g. retail to healthcare) as you develop different skills. A lot of those skills are transferable, but (I found) a lot are quite specialised to the type of work you do. Or maybe it's just about the way you talk about the skills you have.

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the co

Post by BlueCat » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:57 pm

BlueCat wrote:So there are 352 responses as of today. Would be great if all our 2016 successful applicants could add their data.
And today there are 446 responses. 94 successful clinpsyers :)
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Post by Gemtakina » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:00 pm

I graduated in 2012 and got on in April 2016 (applied 2015). I had experience as a healthcare worker and support worker for at least a year, 9 months volunteer facilitating a CBT panic group, 6 months as an honorary AP and then 2.5 years as a PWP. I also did a research secondment in half my last year as a PWP.

I hope this helps!

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Post by dwrein » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:52 pm

Almost an outlier (7 years).

I graduated in 2009 undergrad, I got on this year (2016 entry).

Its always tempting to say "took me x number of years but..." and I've noticed it throughout this thread. I'm curious to know more about why there is a feeling of needing to justify why it took however long it took.

I see 7 years and compare it to the other numbers and I must admit that I try and justify the length of time it took me (e.g. I was more interested in other parts of my life so stayed a support worker for 2 1/2 years or I was 1 person away from being offered a place 2 years ago etc).

I'd really like to look at seeing if there are any differences during the course for trainees who got on earlier post degree compared to those that didn't, I'm sure there are advantages to both but it may bring some balance. Can't help looking at the stats at the top of the thread and thinking it looks like another competition (as if there isn't enough competition in CP to get on, now we are on its 'who got on earlier, with what experience, since graduation etc!?').

Other's thoughts would be greatly appreciated :)

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the course

Post by hawke » Sat May 05, 2018 8:27 pm

I graduated from my conversion Masters in 2013, and have just got a place to start in 2018. So academically, I've been ready since 2013.

I was unsure about the different professional/academic psychology routes, and so spent a bit of time getting some really varied experience to find out. I'm glad I did this, as it makes me feel more certain that CP is my preferred profession, and I never felt the 'CP or nothing' mentality as I could see lots of other 'good enough' career options. Realistically, I've been clinically ready since about 2016, and this was when I applied for the first time. (Also prompted by the possible funding changes rumour reaching me.)

Last to fall in to place was my personal readiness - and funnily enough, being unsuccessful in my first round of applications really helped with that. It spurred me on to really focus on my reflective skills and my overall resilience. That extra year was also filled with a huge number of big life events (good and bad), and I am so grateful that I didn't have the pressure of a doctorate on top of that. I am really glad I have prioritised my personal life over my career - although the older you get, the more personal ties you have to factor in to your university choices.

So overall, I'm glad I did not rush into the doctorate, although it was tough seeing peers get there before me. But equally, I'm glad I applied one year before I was ready all-round, as I think that experience helped move me from scientist practitioner to reflective scientist practitioner. It also helped to know the process from a practical basis (e.g. short-listing test formats, what kind of interview questions to expect etc). It's a very tough process though, so the cost of that almost-but-not-quite-ready application was some excruciating anxiety and disappointment!

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the course

Post by knaggers » Fri May 11, 2018 1:54 pm

I have finally gained a place this year, 7 years after undergrad graduation. I feel great about that but it makes me wonder why threads like this exist. We all have different stories and paths but finding a way through to the doctorate is a massive achievement whenever it happens.

For me, I started studying psychology as a mature(ish) student and while I have been getting experience I have had dependents, which has led me to take jobs which juggle financial demands with professional development. This patchwork work history has undoubtedly set me back a few years (I have been told this by uni departments) but I am proud that I have managed to keep myself and my family stable while also moving forwards. I understand that the application process is competitive and so it is likely to make people think competitively, but I think that obsessing over how quickly/efficiently we make it onto training can be demoralising for people who don't make it after a few years or a few applications. I'm not sure this does much for diversity within clinical psychology as it is only a limited demographic who can afford to focus primarily on their career and gaining relevant experience.

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Post by Bronwen1991 » Fri May 11, 2018 2:29 pm

4 years after graduating I gained a place this year.

I applied in 2016 and it was all flat out NO's

This year I got 2 NO's and 2 reserve interviews. I was offered a place by the only University to offer me an interview, as I was not picked up from the reserve list from the other University.

It is still quite a shock, but a lovely one.

I graduated in 2014, after completing a Psych degree with a year's placement in the prison service. I then worked as an interventions facilitator for the prison service until 2015. I then took up a Band 5 Assistant Psych post in a medium secure unit (at which point I first applied for DClinPsy). Following the rejections I gave up and thought it was a pipe-dream for me (I am still not sure why I became so defeatist so quickly...). I then trained as a cognitive behavioural therapist with IAPT. The same month that my certificate came through, I was encouraged to apply for DClinPsy, and now I am on at Plymouth.

Everyone has their own path and it is hard to compare.

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the course

Post by Holly85 » Fri May 11, 2018 5:40 pm

It's taken me 6 years which I think is a medium amount of time.
I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis soon after graduating from my conversion and I think that held me back slightly.

This is my third application and 3rd year with interviews. I think the difference for me this year was not being desperate to get on. I also focused on me and what my core values were. I've also received therapy and done mindfulness over the past year which also really helped.

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Re: How many years after graduation before you got on the course

Post by Eriya » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:17 pm

It took me 7 years. Partly because I gained no relevant experience during my undergrad, and then I had almost a whole year post-undergrad doing a completely unrelated job (initially I was naïve and had no understanding of what it took to be a CP, and then it took me a while to build up the courage to do support worker jobs). I applied a couple of times, didn't get anywhere, and then completed a professional qualification masters. I could have applied to the course last year, but was really enjoying my post-masters job, and wasn't in a rush to do the doctorate anymore. So I guess my 7 years are a combination of the fact that it took me a while to get started, and then I purposely gave myself a "year out".

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