Pay freeze!

New Dimension · Post by **New Dimension** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:51 pm

OK so this may seem like a daft question - but what actually does this pay freeze mean for people in the NHS? Are we talking inflation, increments, or both?

Sastra · Post by **Sastra** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:18 pm

My understanding is that it will manifest itself in a slight cut. So, inflation will go up, but pay will stay the same, meaning that your take-home will be less.

New Dimension · Post by **New Dimension** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:58 pm

Thanks Sastra, I assumed it may be the inflation that was affected. But does this mean that the incremental spine points will also stay the same? (Finance is definately not my strong point!

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Post by **BenJMan** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:17 pm

Yea I'm also unsure if that just means a freeze on the usual cost of living rises every april, or also the yearly increments.. or both... quite disturbing

Sastra · Post by **Sastra** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:59 pm

My heart's telling me its the spine-points too...but I don't actually know.

eponymous85 · Post by **eponymous85** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:01 pm

Have also just seen that the lower earnings limit for income tax will increase by £1000, so there may be some off set?

Post by **BenJMan** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:13 pm

The low earnings limit works out at about a £170 benefit for those earning below about 21k from whats been said.

That's about 1/4 of a spine point for me, and I'm only a band 4

New Dimension · Post by **New Dimension** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:34 pm

Well I am hoping (and maybe being naive?) that as increments are already budgeted for in Trusts budget (I think!) then fingers crossed it will be up to the NHS what happens with this? Maybe? Perhaps?

damnsaiyan · Post by **damnsaiyan** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:49 pm

Are increases on the points on bands usually a yearly thing? Is it something you have to bring up with your manager or do you call HR?

h2eau · Post by **h2eau** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:15 pm

Someone told me today that it was just the annual inflation rise that we usually get in April that is frozen, not the increments. Not sure how true this is, but would make sense as incremental points are related to your KSF/PDPR?

baa · Post by **baa** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:39 pm

My understanding was that you move up your spine point, but there's no annual hike in the actual money paid at each spine point.

I am wildly unsurprised by this.

BlueCat · Post by **BlueCat** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:57 pm

Please please please just be the cost of living increase, please please please.

Dragonfly · Post by **Dragonfly** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:13 am

i think it is just the cost of living increase that will be cut. Moving up the pay band is to do with job skill because someone who has worked as an AP for a year will be more skilled than someone who has just started, and so will be paid accordingly.

To put it another way, the government are not stopping promotions i.e. moving from a band 4 to a band 5 which is based on skill. Therefore it is the cost of living increase that will be frozen as I understand it.

Sastra · Post by **Sastra** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:38 am

Ah, well put Dragonfly. That makes much sense.

greendog · Post by **greendog** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:40 pm

Bdawson wrote:The low earnings limit works out at about a £170 benefit for those earning below about 21k from whats been said.

That's about 1/4 of a spine point for me, and I'm only a band 4

I heard that for all Public sector workers earning under 21,000 there would still be an annual pay rise of £250. Did i make this up??

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