Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

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Butterfly1921
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Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by Butterfly1921 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:27 pm

Bit of an unusual situation.

I live in an area where IAPT services and PWPs don’t technically exist (think UK islands rather than UK itself).

We do have a counselling service for low-moderate mental health issues, but it’s not called an IAPT service. I’ve worked as an assistant psychologist for 4 years.

My experience involves working both inpatient and counselling settings. I only have a bachelors degree but I have done bits of training in CBT (modules), foundation level training in systemic therapy, DBT skills training etc. My role has been mainly therapeutic and I’ve been seeing clients using a CBT approach for about 2-3 years.

I’d like to apply to a HI CBT trainee position in the UK and understand I’d need to fill out a KSA portfolio.

Are there any other APs who have done this and been successful? I’m a little wary as I don’t have a core profession and I’m sure PWPs have a leg up and probably are more suitable but that just isn’t an option where I live.

Thanks!

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Re: Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by hawke » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:43 pm

Yes, I knew an AP who got on to HI training. She had a non-IAPT mental health background, worked briefly (literally a few weeks) as an AP in IAPT, and then was successful in getting a HI training place in the same service. Do some swotting up on how IAPT works in terms of stepped care, outcomes-driven supervision, and manualised CBT, and I think you'd stand a good chance with your experience.

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Re: Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by Butterfly1921 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:07 pm

hawke wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:43 pm
Yes, I knew an AP who got on to HI training. She had a non-IAPT mental health background, worked briefly (literally a few weeks) as an AP in IAPT, and then was successful in getting a HI training place in the same service. Do some swotting up on how IAPT works in terms of stepped care, outcomes-driven supervision, and manualised CBT, and I think you'd stand a good chance with your experience.
Thanks for replying, that’s given me a little hope! Can I ask what you mean by manualised CBT? Just want to make sure I understand right. Thanks!

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Re: Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by hawke » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:19 pm

Butterfly1921 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:07 pm
hawke wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:43 pm
Yes, I knew an AP who got on to HI training. She had a non-IAPT mental health background, worked briefly (literally a few weeks) as an AP in IAPT, and then was successful in getting a HI training place in the same service. Do some swotting up on how IAPT works in terms of stepped care, outcomes-driven supervision, and manualised CBT, and I think you'd stand a good chance with your experience.
Thanks for replying, that’s given me a little hope! Can I ask what you mean by manualised CBT? Just want to make sure I understand right. Thanks!
Of course. IAPT tend to be diagnosis-led, and will have particular CBT protocols that they follow and formulate within for each diagnosis.

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Re: Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by Butterfly1921 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:22 pm

hawke wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:19 pm
Butterfly1921 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:07 pm
hawke wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:43 pm
Yes, I knew an AP who got on to HI training. She had a non-IAPT mental health background, worked briefly (literally a few weeks) as an AP in IAPT, and then was successful in getting a HI training place in the same service. Do some swotting up on how IAPT works in terms of stepped care, outcomes-driven supervision, and manualised CBT, and I think you'd stand a good chance with your experience.
Thanks for replying, that’s given me a little hope! Can I ask what you mean by manualised CBT? Just want to make sure I understand right. Thanks!
Of course. IAPT tend to be diagnosis-led, and will have particular CBT protocols that they follow and formulate within for each diagnosis.
Got it, thank you!

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Re: Have any APs successfully gotten onto a HI CBT course?

Post by mungle » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:22 am

It's difficult as you'd need the KSA portfolio or a core profession. Usually KSA portfolios require PWP training and 3 years+ as a PWP. However, it may not be impossible. Sometimes non-IAPT services may fund therapist training but that is increasingly rare but might be worth asking about.

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