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york-hull clinical doctorate scheme

Post by sleepybean » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:17 pm

I am currently in the 2nd year of my undergraduate degree at york. One of the main reasons i applied to york in the first place was because they offer selected students places on the hull doctorate course. However only students that are selected for the 3rd year clinical modules can apply to hull after grauating...i applied for the 3rd year modules but got rejected (I have asked for feedback regarding that decision, but as yet have not heard anything). I was wondering if anyone had been to York as an undergrad and could offer advise as to the importance of doing the 3rd year clinical modules/ the advantages of getting on the hull course (as opposed to applying to the clearing house).

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Post by maven » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:29 pm

The modules only matter when it comes to the few (10?) places that are available on the Hull course. Any psychology degree with GBR is equally good at getting you a place through the clearing house scheme on other training courses. It just means that you effectively missed out on one potential shortcut, a ladder in this big game of career snakes and ladders, and will have to compete along with everyone else for the other courses...

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Post by sleepybean » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:34 pm

Thanks Maven, 12 people are selected for the modules and of those 3 are selected for the hull course. In many ways I think I would rather not be fast-tracked, as I think the experience gained as an AP or RA would be very valuable...

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Post by miriam » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:04 pm

I qualified through Hull, and I have to say I felt the same way - that gaining experience was an essential part of the career path. I took two years out to work as an AP(R) and did an MSc by research before doing the clinical course, but if I'm honest I still feel a little bit of a Hull apologist in that I didn't face full-scale competition for my place. I guess it doesn't matter now, I'm 8 years post qual and a consultant, but I've never really endorsed their model of standing outside the clearing house.

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Post by wondaduck » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:32 pm


I went to York and am now on the Hull training course. I have to say I agree with Miriam. I did a lot of experience while at uni, and then had a year as a GMHW before starting the course. While I was obviously never going to say no to a place on a course&I am grateful for a place, I do feel like I've cheated & notice that I feel uncomfortable telling other trainees where I go! I do also sometimes feel like I need to prove myself more to CPs because I took a much easier route than they did.

From talking to qualifieds, they say they don't see a difference at qualification between hull trainees and those from other courses. At the moment final years also have some joint teaching with Leeds & Sheffield trainees & they say they don't see a difference either.
BUT I think on starting, it's totally mental to put people straight from undergrad to seeing clients. Some people in my year had never even had a full-time job! They are all good at their job now, but I think in the beginning it was even more of a scary & difficult transition for them than it was for those of us with experience of seeing clients.

On the plus side I'll be qualified just before my 27th birthday, which is the average age of actually starting a course. Going to Hull also obviously means a less stressful applying / job hunting/changing process that most people have to go through.

It's probably hypocritical of me as I'm on the course, but I totally disagree with the way they select people & have no idea how they get away with it when course places are so in demand! As far as I know they're also the only course that has a self-funded place, which to me is also a bit unethical cos they charge so much it's like whoever's the richest can be a CP!

A couple of friends of mine just got on courses in Edinburgh and they didn't do the clinical modules, so don't worry about it too much!

sorry for the mini kinda hypocritical rant!
good luck!

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Re: york-hull clinical doctorate scheme

Post by traineepsychologist » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:24 pm

There benefits to doing the Hull/York route..

Firstly I would like to point out that there's actually 15 places - split equally between the hull and york undergrad students. Only people who are doing the specialised third year modules can apply - The modules are capped at 30 places.

The benefit is that you can practise from a much younger age.. Everyone seems to talk about how crucial the experience is and how it helps to confirm that that's what one wants to do in life but what about medical students. They decide at an extremely young age to enter the profession - this shapes their mindset from a young age and allows them to spend a longer time in practice.

Another benefit is that it creates a more diverse workforce - young people carry different ideas to those who are a bit older..

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